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Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

A Storm in the Desert: Mack + Leeann (Ep. 1)

Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

9Marks

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8698 Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Introducing a new podcast from 9Marks—A Storm in the Desert.

In 1972, at the base of a Swiss mountain, God saved a man named Mack Stiles. Two decades later, John Folmar “accepted Jesus as his personal Savior”; he doesn’t know even where he first heard that phrase. What happens in the next quarter-century is a testament to God’s commitment to use faithful, ordinary ministry to effect fruitful, extraordinary change. A Storm in the Desert tells this story.

The first act in our story covers a lot of ground—from an icy crevice on a Swiss mountain to a below-freezing night capped off by the fiery Billy Graham. It involves a surprising conversion that eventually leads to a transatlantic flight on an empty plane. This is the story of Mack and Leeann.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm staring at a beautiful church building.

0:04.1

I just learned about its curious origin story.

0:07.6

It's built on top of a toilet graveyard.

0:11.2

Right next to me in the parking lot, about 30 teenagers are playing one of those made-up youth group games.

0:16.9

It involves a ball and some tape on the asphalt.

0:19.9

You know the type.

0:21.6

A few minutes ago, I just finished a conversation with two Mississippians.

0:25.6

Once upon a time, they both wanted to serve in the United States Senate.

0:29.6

In another timeline, they'd be political arch rivals, or perhaps even running mates.

0:35.6

But in this timeline, they are married and doing ministry together.

0:39.8

They're serving a church on top of a toilet graveyard in the middle of the Middle East.

0:46.0

Okay, let's pause.

0:47.6

Generally speaking, I hate spoiled stuff.

0:50.3

Plot twists, birthday surprises.

0:52.7

But let me spoil a little bit of where we're headed.

0:55.8

You're about to hear the voice of a man named John Fulmer.

0:58.9

John has been the pastor of the evangelical Christian Church of Dubai for the last 20 years.

1:03.4

I think there are 40 guys out there that have been trained by us.

1:06.5

We think we're batting maybe 500, 600.

1:09.3

They're senior pastors in places like Almadi, Ammanjord,

1:14.9

Kathmandu, Sulawesi, Indonesia. These are all indigenous churches in their home countries.

1:21.6

They're ministering in Arabic, Russian, Indonesian, Nepali. They recognize that biblical ecclesiology will be cross-culturally applicable.

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