Hello and welcome to Under the Skin from Luminary. This week I spoke with Bob Roth,

an American Transcendental Meditation teacher and the CEO of the David Lynch Foundation.

He's been practicing TM for nearly 50 years, teaching the likes of Tom Hanks,

Oprah Winfrey and Hugh Jackman how to meditate. They're famous, so better that in mind.

Here's some of your listener shoutouts. Alex, thank you for the Chris Hedges episode.

On censorship, it was nice hearing him on your, then the last bit's been redacted.

Josh says, the Michael Singer episode was a banger. I was only chatting to a friend about some

stuff and mentioned on Tevetsol and then bam, you dropped the next day. I know Josh,

you made you think we're in tune with the universe, hey? Kirsten says,

I listened to this one the other day, went out for a walk. I'm so glad I did. I knew nothing

about Michael Singer, but after hearing this, I want to know more, fabulous conversation,

and it's one that I needed to hear. I'm recording this while on to In Cornwall and Devon,

these shows are sold out. If you're in the UK, you can come to Blackpool on the 24th of May and

see me there. There's only a handful of tickets, get them on rossabrand.com. If you're not a

subscriber to my mailing list yet, you bloody well should be because I'm doing this thing on July

the 10th for is a one-off day with Wim Hof and we're only going to give it to people that register

or the link that's on my mailing list, go rossabrand.com and register for that as well.

And also sign up to my awakening channel where I do loads of meditation stuff. Further more,

you should be listening to above the noise also on luminary where I do meditations every week,

including this week, one with Bob Roth. Now here is Bob Roth on Under the Skin.

Trying to achieve a quality with the annihilation of category is not successful.

Yeah, that's exactly right. We're in this era where it turns out we were never the boss.

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