Welcome to significant others. I'm Liza Powell O'Brien. Season 2 is coming soon, we promise.

But in the meantime, we've got another conversation for you. This time, about one of the more

interesting couples, certainly in the history of literary couples, but also, I think, in

the history of couples. James Joyce and his wife Nora Barnacle. Here to share their story

with us is one of the significant people in my life, Dr. Molly Helead Kinberg, faculty lecturer

at the UCLA School of Theater Film and Television, adjunct professor at the Anderson School of

Management, and holder of a doctorate in English literature from Cambridge University.

Molly, you and I met in a sandbox, literally. That is true. When our kids were very young,

and I expected to be consigned for the afternoon to a mindless afternoon of

watching kids play with dirt, and instead found myself listening to the phrase,

when I got my PhD in Modernist Literature at Cambridge, and I thought, wait, what?

Who's this person? And friendship was born, and here we are. And I'm so grateful that you

are coming to talk to us about these fascinating people. Thank you so much. I'm so excited to

be here today. Thank you for having me. So, for those of us who do not have a PhD in Modernist

Literature from Cambridge or anywhere else, will you help orient us a little bit about why we

why it is that we care generally about James Joyce? Thank you. Yes, of course. I think Joyce is

arguably one of the most significant, radically inventive writers in the English language,

certainly of the 20th century. He took a lot of norms and turned them upside down on their head.

He's very well known for creating stream of consciousness writing, which was the intention to

write from the inside to express the way we think and to put that to paper. And it was very much

shattered previous notions of literature representing sort of something more external.

And I guess for the purposes of a lot of what we're going to be talking about today,

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