Welcome to significant others. I'm Liza Powell O'Brien and as we get ever closer to season two, I swear it's coming.

We have another bonus episode. I would call it the penultimate

bonus episode because I think we have one more before season two

starts but that would drive my husband and my best friend

absolutely crazy. So instead I'll just say that I'm so thrilled to be talking

today with Liza Mundi journalist and author of the book The Sisterhood, The Secret

History of Women at the CIA.

Liza, thank you so much for being here.

I can't wait to hear all about what you learned on this subject,

but just to orient us, could you give us kind of an overview?

My book is really a history of the CIA, our most important

intelligence agency and one of the most important

intelligence agencies in the world.

And the best known most important intelligence agencies in the world.

And the best known job at the CIA is to be what's called a case officer, which is a bland term

for spy.

And these are essentially the fighter pilots of the CIA. term for

decades and these are essentially the fighter pilots of the CIA in the sense that it's the most prestigious sought after and for decades

to decades traditionally mail posting in which a person works undercover overseas

often under diplomatic cover so it has a fake identity has a pseudonym which the officer uses in his or her real job which is to

spy on behalf of the United States and to convince foreign nationals to commit treason in their own country to break the law

by passing secrets or documents or technology to the United States in order to inform the

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