Hey, so I got a question for you.

Like, did you have, did you have like, like your best business advice?

Did you get a good amount from like one source or is it different people or does one kind of stand out

above the other and maybe and then asking that is it somebody that you knew or is it a book

that you read like where did you get your best business advice is from oh i'd say three or four

different places um i'm 54 and i think I've been doing this for about 25 years. And I think

there are at different times in your life, you're more receptive to different people or different

avenues. So it's not something you get all at once.

So I'd put about three or four people in those spots for me.

So is it people that you, that you, like you knew, uh, on a personal basis?

Or was it like, uh, a big guru that you kind of followed kind of thing?

Well, as you know, uh, probably the number one source for me was my dad.

We founded the mortgage company together.

I've been working with him for almost 25 years since I stopped practicing law on a regular

basis.

But then also two or three business coaches along the way.

And I've had a couple of mentors, mortgage industry specific, from which I've learned a lot.

But my number one is gotta be my dad

and just learning about people from him.

You know, I think, so I've gotten some good advice.

I've learned a lot from you.

I've learned, I learned a lot.

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