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China Challenges Silicon Valley for A.I. Dominance

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Financial markets went into a panic last week over an obscure Chinese tech start-up called DeepSeek. The company now threatens to upend the world of artificial intelligence and the race for who will dominate it. Kevin Roose, a tech columnist at The Times, discusses how DeepSeek caught us all off guard.

Transcript

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From the New York Times, I'm Natalie Kittrow F. This is the Daily.

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Last week, financial markets went into a panic over an obscure Chinese tech startup called Deepseek.

0:19.3

That company now threatens to upend the world of artificial intelligence and the race

0:24.7

for who will dominate it.

0:27.1

Today, my colleague Kevin Ruse, a tech columnist and the co-host of the podcast Hard Fork on

0:33.1

how Deepseek caught us all off guard.

0:47.6

Thank you. DeepSeek caught us all off guard. It's Monday, February 3rd.

0:56.9

Hi, Kevin.

0:57.5

Hello.

0:59.2

So great to be here.

1:00.8

So let's jump in.

1:05.9

Kevin, how did this giant AI tech freakout begin?

1:07.3

Tell us that story. So the freakout really started in earnest with a Chinese AI company called

1:13.0

Deepseek. And Deepseek had released a new AI model. You know, models are released all the time.

1:20.3

Generally, they don't make international news. But this model was different in a few ways.

1:28.8

Deepseek released its new chatbot app, which is said to perform as well as chat GPT.

1:34.6

One of them was that it just appeared to be a really good model, like better than the leading

1:39.8

Chinese models at the time and on par or close to on par with the leading American models.

1:46.0

A new AI king was crowned today, well at least for now.

1:50.0

And so the DeepSeek app, unseating open AI's chat GPT, goes to number one on the App Store charts.

1:57.0

It faults ahead of chat GPT in all these better known apps. Now, the most stunning thing

2:03.6

here isn't necessarily that China has developed a pretty good AI app. It's how cheap it is.

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