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How North America Averted a Trade War β€” for Now

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

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πŸ—“οΈ 4 February 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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North America came within hours of a multibillion dollar trade war that was poised to hobble the economies of Mexico and Canada. The Times journalists Ana Swanson, Matina Stevis-Gridneff and Simon Romero discuss the last-minute negotiations that headed off the crisis β€” for now.

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0:00.0

From New York Times, I'm Michael Bobaro.

0:04.1

This is the Daily.

0:13.4

On Monday, North America came within hours of a multi-billion-dollar trade war

0:20.1

that was poised to hobble the economies of Mexico and Canada.

0:25.7

Today, my colleagues, Anna Swanson, Matina Stavis Gridneff, and Simone Romero, on the last-minute negotiations

0:35.0

that headed off the crisis for now.

0:44.6

It's Tuesday, February 4th.

0:52.4

So friends, welcome. Anna, you are joining us from Washington, D.C., Matina, from Toronto, Canada, and Simone from Mexico City. Thank you all for being here on very short notice. We appreciate it.

1:09.3

Thanks.

1:09.8

Thank you. Good to be here.

1:11.0

Thanks for having us. And the reason we wanted you to be here is because we want to make sense

1:15.6

of a very fast-moving story playing out in all three of the countries where you are based,

1:20.6

involving the leaders from each of those countries that brought us to the verge of a historic

1:27.4

and very consequential trade war between them.

1:31.3

I want to start with you.

1:32.8

What had been President Trump's original plan for what this morning would look like?

1:40.7

The plan before the plan changed.

1:43.1

Yeah, his plan was to impose sweeping tariffs on

1:47.2

America's three biggest trading partners. So a 25% tariff on Canada and Mexico, virtually across

1:54.8

the board, except a lower tariff on Canadian oil, and 10% tariff on China. And that would include everything from cars, lumber,

2:04.2

natural gas, beer, vegetables, pretty much everything that we're importing from those countries.

2:10.8

Okay. And let's put China aside for just a moment, since it has felt like this was primarily about our neighbors to the

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