Diabetes Diet: Is DASH or Whole Food Plant-Based Best? | Dr. Thomas Campbell
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🗓️ 18 February 2025
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Summary
What is the best diet for someone with diabetes?
Dr. Thomas Campbell shares his research comparing the DASH Diet and a whole food plant-based diet. Their effects on insulin resistance and blood sugar levels are then examined.
Although both diets showed improvement, the participants experienced superior results while eating the WFPB diet. Dr. Campbell explains why when he joins "The Weight Loss Champion" Chuck Carroll on The Exam Room Podcast.
In the Interview:
Plant-Based Diet for Diabetes Management: The interview emphasizes the effectiveness of a whole food plant-based diet in managing diabetes, contrasting it with other dietary approaches like the keto diet, which merely suppresses symptoms rather than addressing underlying issues.
Influence of Family Legacy: Dr. Campbell reflects on the profound influence of his father, Dr. T. Colin Campbell who co-authored The China Study, on his career choice in medicine, emphasizing that his motivation stemmed from passion rather than pressure.
Challenges in Medical Nutrition Education: He highlights a significant gap in knowledge among medical professionals regarding diet and its effects on health, particularly in treating conditions like heart disease and diabetes.
Social Norms and Health: Dr. Campbell discusses how social norms contribute to unhealthy eating habits, making it difficult for individuals to change their diets despite knowing the health risks associated with poor nutrition.
Patient Education and Openness: Dr. Campbell stresses the importance of patient openness to dietary changes and the need for healthcare providers to engage in meaningful conversations rather than overwhelming patients with information.
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| 0:00.0 | Today on the exam room. |
| 0:04.0 | It's kind of going from terrible down to less terrible to good, back to less terrible. |
| 0:09.0 | The dash diet was better than the baseline, but not as good as the whole food plant base, |
| 0:14.0 | because after they finished the whole food plant based, everything started to get a little worse again. |
| 0:19.0 | Welcome to the exam room podcast. started to get a little worse again. |
| 0:26.5 | Welcome to the exam room podcast, brought to you by the Physicians Committee. |
| 0:32.7 | Hi, I'm the weight loss champion Chuck Carroll, raising health IQs coast to coast and around the world. |
| 0:38.6 | Hi to the exam room is listening in Kerry, North Carolina, Richmond, California, and Sapporo, Japan. Wherever you are, we appreciate you helping to make the world a healthier |
| 0:43.8 | place. This is episode 17 of season 8, number 616 overall. And today, it is another first-time |
| 0:53.1 | guest, and honestly, I cannot believe that it has taken this long |
| 0:57.6 | for Dr. Thomas Campbell to join us here on the exam room. He, of course, is the son of Dr. T. Colin |
| 1:04.6 | Campbell and co-author of The China Study. And we're going to hear a little bit about what it was |
| 1:09.8 | like growing up in the Campbell household |
| 1:12.1 | and working with his father before we transitioned back in the second half of the interview |
| 1:17.1 | to his research on dietary interventions for insulin resistance, which is just a fancy way of |
| 1:23.7 | saying which diet works best for someone with diabetes. So we're going to be diving into |
| 1:29.3 | that study that compared the dash diet and a whole food plant-based diet. And the results, |
| 1:35.4 | as you will hear, are very significant. And I think you're really going to enjoy this particular |
| 1:40.8 | part of the conversation. These findings are the same ones that he presented at |
| 1:46.0 | the International Conference on Nutrition in Medicine last year, where he and I had the opportunity |
| 1:50.8 | to sit down for this interview. And we're also going to be talking today about social norms. |
| 1:57.7 | What is so much a part of our culture is now also contributing to this explosion of preventable diseases. |
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