This is the Kaderie Daily Podcast for Friday, September 13th,

2024. I'm Caleb Brown. The private, voluntary sector has a role to play in environmental stewardship.

That isn't controversial, but in some corners on the right, in the pursuit of challenging so-called

ESG policies in the corporate world, something has changed.

Todd Myers is Vice President for research at the Washington Policy Center.

He'd like to set our friends on the right straight on the matter. I can remember when I was in middle school a long time ago that you know there was a big environmental push in the late 80s and early 90s.

And that push was characterized by what you and I could do, by what we as individuals could do to make the planet a little healthier, to advance

environmental goals, to reduce waste,

waste, reduce emissions, that sort of thing.

And the story that you're going to describe

is, it seems like, is so totally alien from that

and that wasn't that long ago I would like to recall yeah and so in the 1970s

there was a big push by government, right, the creation of the EPA, the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, to put government in sort of the lead position in addressing the environment.

But then you're right in the

in the 80s and 90s there was more of a personal approach,

especially on litter, right?

Everybody remembers the commercial of the Indian turning and crying because of litter.

And it became a very sort of personal responsibility effort.

But we have sort of snapped back to the 1970s

where it is very useful for politicians who want to look good,

and government agencies who want to expand their power

to say that only government can solve these problems.

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