E196 - M23, the DRC, and Rwanda w/ Marie-Rose Tshite

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, Politics, News

4.8 • 705 Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Derek speaks with Marie-Rose Tshite, a peacebuilding advocate and Ph.D. student in Political Science with a concentration in Feminist Comparative and International Politics at the University of Cincinnati, about M23 and the situation in Goma, Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC). They explore the group’s origins, its ties with the Rwandan government, other external actors, the recent seizure of Goma, minerals and the economic factors driving the conflict, the humanitarian situation, and more. Read Marie-Rose’s recent article on Congolese women's experiences during the Second Congolese War between 1998 and 2003, “Capturing Congolese Women’s Memories of War and Peacemaking”. Subscribe today for an ad-free experience and much more content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:02.2	American Prestige listeners.
1:03.4	It's Derek,
1:04.2	and I am very pleased to be joined by first-time guest,
1:10.1	hopefully not last time, but first-time guest Marie Rose Chita.
1:14.9	She is a peace-building advocate and PhD student in political science with a concentration in feminist
1:21.7	comparative and international politics at the University of Cincinnati. Her current research
1:26.0	interest focus on the experience of the women
1:28.5	who are involved in peace negotiations that ended the second Congolese war in 2003. And we are here
1:34.9	today to talk about the situation in the Eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo with M23,
1:41.5	having just a few days ago conquered the city of Goma and potentially moving on from there.
1:47.8	So Mariroz, first of all, thank you so much for coming on the program.
1:51.6	Thank you for having me, for inviting me.
1:54.9	We're very, very grateful to have you, certainly to help us understand what's going on here.
2:00.2	So why don't we start with the very basics?
2:05.4	Let's talk about M23 and how it emerged following the first and second Congo wars.
2:13.9	Take this back as far as you want.
2:16.1	I know this goes all the way,
2:17.9	can go all the way back to the Rwandan genocide or even before,
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