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Find the link in our show notes. Hello, Hello, Prestige heads and welcome.

I'm Danny Bessner, here as always with my friend

and comrade Derek Davison. And we're very excited to welcome to the podcast today. Charlotte E. Rosen,

Charlotte is a historian and writer based in Chicago, and she's also the author for Protein magazine

of the recent essay, The End of Resistance History, which is what we've invited

her to talk about. So Charlotte, first of all, thank you so much for joining us. Yeah, thank you

for having me. So here's the first question. What is resistance history? How would you define it?

It's a term that I believe first emerged as a slur on Twitter and then kind of permeated the historical

profession, but even beyond the historical profession, historians have become public figures

in a way that they hadn't been in a while since Trump came down that escalator in 2015,

and I think a lot of people have picked up this notion of resistance history.

But as some known, resistance historians have said, if you call them that, they will, quote,

cut you, I believe is the exact phrase. But what is resistance history? And maybe you could give

a little bit of a genealogy of it. And Derek has something he wants to say.

And if I could just jump, kind of piggyback on that, I would like you to answer the question,

resistance history, great history or the greatest history?

Yeah, great, great starting, starting questions we have here.

Yeah, so maybe I'll decline the last one, but, but, yeah, right. But anyway, yeah, so I think

the way that I think about resistance history is in some ways it is sort of just like a rehashing

of what is a sort of like dominant mainstream form of liberal historiography that has always existed in in the U.S. historical profession.

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