Hi, I'm Jonathan Lehman.

He really, really is.

And I really, really am with Mark Devere.

Mark Devere.

Freshly returned from Argentina and Brazil.

What were you doing down there?

Having a great time mainly talking with pastors,

hearing about what the Lord is doing there

and doing some basic teaching from Scripture.

Speaking of talking, speaking with pastors, we're going to do that now in Pastors Talk, this episode of.

A weekly podcast meant to edify pastors and other church leaders and interested folks.

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That's it.

Mark, there's been a growing trend.

I want to talk about, talk about with you today, about spontaneous baptisms.

The first person I heard about doing this was Steve Ferdick at Elevation Church, but it does seem to be a growing

trend.

Oh, long before that, Rick Warren was doing it.

I remember Rick coming up to me in a meeting in Palm Springs, California, very excited

about a service they had just had where one person who was there heard a testimony of somebody

who was getting baptized and then themselves literally physically walked forward and got, said they were just converted and they got baptized then and there but as a kind of cultivated practice have you have you heard about it before I have not done research in this it'd be interesting I would love to to see what the history of it is yeah in my experience I think it's it's happening recently in a way it has not happened normally, except maybe in missionary settings or –

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