Hey friends, this episode of Pastors' Talk, Jonathan wanted to discuss the very difficult topic of hell.

And it was a good conversation, but it happened right before all the coronavirus stuff broke.

We're ringing out now because we have very few podcasts left right now, and it's not easy to make new ones.

It was a good conversation, but just warning.

It's a heavy topic.

And if in this time with what's going in your life right now, you need to give a pass on this one,

buy a little away and listen to it in a few months.

Hello, this is Jonathan Lehman's friend Mark Devere.

And this is Jonathan Lehman.

And we are here for...

Nine Marks.

Pastors Talk.

Where pastors talk about building healthy churches, which is what we try to do at Nine Marks. Learn more at nine marks.

Dot org.org. That's right. Mark, there's something...

If we made more money, would we be nine marks.com?

I don't know. Is that how that works?

Well, I'm pretty sure we don't qualify anyway, so let's keep going.

Seems like a wasted conversation.

Well, the topic I do want to address with you.

Thank you.

Let's get to something lighter, shall we?

Well, we're going to even go darker. So we've begun in a good direction.

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