Episode 209: Does That Scripture Mean What You Think it Means? Marriage Edition | A Conversation with Dr. Jennifer Bird

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Religion & Spirituality, Feminism, Motherhood, Ldswomen, Spirituality, Lds, Thechurchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, Mormonwomen, Religion, Marriage, Mormon, Faith

5 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

“If we want to look at this sacred collection called the Bible as our guide, let's be really clear and honest about what it was saying on its own terms first, then leave it up to everyone to figure out what we're going to do with that, because we're going to do different things with it,” suggests Dr. Jennifer Bird. In Episode 209, she joins Susan and Cynthia for part one of a conversation about biblical marriage. Is it possible that in our reading of the Bible, we’ve layered a lot of our own ideas about marriage and relationships on top of it that were never there to begin with? What can we understand about biblical marriage based on what the texts actually say?

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0:00.0	Those relationships, they didn't call marriage.
0:07.0	They just talked about it like a man went and took a woman.
0:10.0	She's his now.
0:11.0	That's it.
0:12.0	Like there was no change of labels.
0:15.0	They didn't even have a verb to marry, right, in the Hebrew Bible.
0:20.0	So we put onto those texts our own current ideas when we call what they're doing
0:28.5	marrying or when we call it a marriage.
0:31.0	Okay.
0:31.6	So, but of course they are pairing up, right?
0:34.3	Which is what we do, you know.
0:36.0	So it's still the same looking thing. But to me, as a
0:39.4	person who's into texts and language, I believe very strongly that labels and the language we do
0:45.4	choose to use really are powerful and are important.
0:52.9	Hi, I'm Cynthia Winward. And I'm Susan Hinkley. And this is at last she said it. We are women of
0:59.7	faith discussing complicated things. And the title of today's episode is, Does That Scripture
1:05.4	Mean What You Think It Means? Marriage Edition, The Conversation with Dr. Jennifer Bird. Welcome, Jennifer. Thank you for being
1:14.9	here. Hi, Jennifer. Thank you so much for inviting me to be on. It's really a pleasure.
1:21.2	We're pretty excited to have you on. I don't even know how many pages of notes we have here,
1:26.2	but we are happy to have a captive audience to ask all kinds of interesting questions about marriage in the Bible.
1:35.3	So that's what our topic is today.
1:37.6	So can you go ahead, Jennifer, and just kind of give us a little bit of a bio about yourself, anything that would help our audience understand what brings you to this topic about talking about marriage?
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