Episode 212: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Kathie Debenham

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Religion & Spirituality, Feminism, Motherhood, Ldswomen, Spirituality, Lds, Thechurchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, Mormonwomen, Religion, Marriage, Mormon, Faith

5 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

“My faith is this process of evolving, ebbing, flowing, forming, reforming, shaping, shape shifting,” explains Kathie Debenham. It’s no surprise that she describes her faith as a moving thing; as a dancer, her education includes a graduate certification focused on “observing, describing, recording, and making meaning of movement.” In Episode 212, Kathie joins Susan and Cynthia to talk about her personal journey—where she’s been, where she is, and how she intends to keep moving. She says, “I have given myself permission to allow my faith to continue to evolve as informed by my spiritual practice and by the light and knowledge I'm seeking.”

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0:00.0	I think fundamentally it was probably in the home that I, it was just taught to me that you're a thinking human being.
0:17.4	Beautiful.
0:18.3	And you have ways that you can contribute to the world.
0:21.7	And I think when you have that as a core value that you really did absorb, it helped me
0:28.5	to realize that it's not an all-or-nothing proposition to join a church.
0:38.5	Hi, I'm Cynthia Woodward.
0:40.8	And I'm Susan Hinkley.
0:42.8	And this is at last she said it.
0:44.9	We are women of faith discussing complicated things.
0:48.0	And the title of today's episode is Embracing Your Journey, a Conversation with Kathy Debenham. Welcome, Kathy. Hi, Kathy. Hi, it's nice to be here.
1:00.2	It's nice to have you here. These are some of our favorite episodes where we just kind of get
1:04.6	behind the scenes in Latter-day St. Women's Lives. And so we're super excited to talk with you today and kind of
1:13.1	get some more details about how you have journeyed with your faith in this sometimes complicated
1:18.9	LDS space. So just give us a quick intro bio, who you are, where you live, what brings you to
1:25.5	this conversation? Sure. I was born and grew up on the peninsula
1:30.6	in the San Francisco Bay Area. Moved to Utah to come to school. I'll get to that. But my growing
1:37.8	years were all in California. I did live on a street that had lots of kids, 73 kids from toddler to teenager.
1:47.0	Oh, wow.
1:48.0	And we were pretty much free-range kids running all over the hills and fields where our houses were.
1:55.0	I grew up in a family that valued education highly and that also valued physical activity and both of those things
2:05.2	have deeply imprinted on me um my high school and college years were shadowed by the vietnam war
2:12.5	which i think significantly influenced my maybe my sense of activism and a sense that, I don't know,
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