Episode 765: Lilly MacKenzie, Transgender Latter-day Saint, BYU Student

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

My friend Lilly MacKenzie (3rd year BYU student) joins us to share her story. Lilly talks about her journey (starting in her early years) realizing she was different and gradually developing the vocabulary, understanding, and person insights to realize she is transgender. Lilly talks about how she feels so much better being her authentic self. Lilly talks about all that BYU is doing to support transgender students (she is having a good experience) and all her ward/church leaders are doing to support her (also a good experience). Lilly talks about her love of and belief in the temple—even though she currently can’t attend. I was so impressed listening to and learning from Lilly—and better realize the importance of hearing multiple stories from our transgender friends. They are Israel, need to be gathered with our kind comments, and help us create Zion. Thank you, Lilly, for being on the podcast. You are very brave. You help others walking this road and the rest of us wanting to do better. You have a great life ahead of you! Links: Church’s transgender web site: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/transgender Richard Ostler’s transgender/non-binary podcasts: listenlearnandlove.org/transgender-and-more-podcasts

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0:00.0	Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.
0:09.7	My guest on today's podcast is my friend Lily McKenzie.
0:14.0	Welcome to the podcast, Lily.
0:17.4	Thank you, Richard, for having me.
0:20.7	Let me read you listeners by way of introduction.
0:23.7	Just an email I got from Lily.
0:26.7	And this will give you an idea of her story.
0:29.5	Hi, I'm a transgender student at BYU.
0:34.7	And then just offered to be on the podcast.
0:38.3	I like these words from Lily.
0:40.4	I'm in a solid and secure position to do so
0:43.5	while also focusing on other things going in my life.
0:47.1	I'm an active member of the church.
0:49.8	And I just thought that was really brave of Lily to email me
0:53.8	and offer to share her story
0:55.5	because I recognize we both do that there are other transgender people that are not in the good spot, Lily is.
1:02.6	And I feel impressed that her story will help others and help all of us to better support transgender Latter-day Saints.
1:11.1	A little bit of background on Lily.
1:12.6	She grew up in Michigan for a few years, spent most of her time in California.
1:18.0	She's a third-year student at BYU.
1:20.5	Her pronouns are she, her.
1:22.4	She's computer engineering.
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