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Episode 766: Sarah and Josh Sabey - @forlittlesaints, New Book: Book of Mormon Storybook

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2024

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

This episode is guest-hosted by Tonya Miller. Tonya interviews Sarah and Josh Sabey, who run For Little Saints (@forlittlesaints). Sarah and Josh share the experiences they've had in creating their newest publication, "The Book of Mormon Storybook." Sarah and Josh talk about wishing that they had a way to share the scriptures with their children that would help them connect more deeply. They recognized that the more traditional way of storytelling from the scriptures, which has often been based on teaching sequences of events or memorizing names and places, can omit some of the more relatable, human, elements of the stories. Sarah and Josh highlight some specific examples from the Book of Mormon that follow character arcs. This way of looking at people, or Peoples, in the Book of Mormon ensures that we do not define them by one story, or one single moment in their history. Taking the long view, or being able to zoom in and then zoom out, can provide perspectives about spiritual growth, and emphasize real ways that people can change. They discuss the importance of moving away from polarization, towards peace. I am grateful for Sarah and Josh, and the inspired work they are doing to help all of us connect more deeply through thoughtful storytelling. Stories connect us. Christ taught with stories during His earthly ministry, and those stories can still connect us to Him. Stories can instruct and heal us. In fact, "Listen, Learn and Love" was founded on the principle that all stories can serve as important connecting points. They can bridge gaps of understanding and provide pathways to love and peace. Sarah and Josh are also filmmakers and have published earlier books. The link for their Instagram is found below. As a side note, I’m focusing only on sharing stories associated with the Queer-LDS experience now. However, if you would like to share your story about a different Church- or gospel-related topic on Listen, Learn and Love, please contact Tonya about the possibility of working with her as my guest-host (e-mail Tonya at [email protected]). Links: @forlittlesaints

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love.

0:06.3

This episode is hosted by my guest host and friend Tanya Miller.

0:11.4

Tanya Miller is a licensed clinical social worker, active literary saint, and married mother of four.

0:18.4

Tanya Miller was on episode 501, where she spoke about healing from church-generated trauma,

0:26.0

an episode according to SoundCloud with over 60,000 listens.

0:31.0

Tanya is also the author of a chapter addressing the same topic in my third book,

0:36.9

Listen, Learn, and Love, Building the Good Ship

0:38.9

Zion. I trust Tanya, because of her level of maturity and extensive clinical experience

0:46.4

to be an excellent guest host. As I mentioned in my solo episode, Episode 731, my emotional gas tank is low,

0:58.1

and I've decided to cut back and generally host only LGBTQ-focused episodes.

1:03.8

I knew that meant there were other brave stories from amazing people,

1:08.5

the real heroes of this podcast, that might not be shared and was sad about

1:14.1

that. However, Tanya and I reconnected shortly after I posted that episode and explored the

1:20.9

possibility of having her guest hosts, so these stories could still be shared and delivered on this platform. And I'm really grateful to have Tanya's a guest host.

1:33.3

Hello, listeners, and thank you, Richard. I feel very humble about this undertaking, and I am so grateful for your trust.

1:41.3

I don't take that lightly, especially the trust that every courageous

1:45.4

guest offers when they participate in this process. I am so hopeful that the good work

1:51.4

accomplished already by Listen, Learn, and Love will continue to expand, and that the gentle spirit

1:57.4

that has always accompanied Richards's podcasts can be maintained.

2:07.3

Listeners, welcome to this episode of Listen, learn, and love.

2:11.3

I am with Sarah and Josh Sabie.

2:15.5

Today, Sarah and Josh run for Little Saints and have recently published a picture

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