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Episode 781: Exponent II Celebrates 50 Years with Katie Rich and Heather Sundahl

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2024

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Guest Host: Tonya Miller Exponent II has played an essential role in creating a shared, safe space for women and gender minorities connected to the Church to explore and express the impacts of "isms" in Church culture. It began in the Boston area as a quarterly newspaper in 1974 by friends who had met and worked on projects together in the Relief Society, and today it continues to provide that space, both physically and digitally. For example, when Exponent II was first created, the idea that someone might adhere to gospel principles and Church policies AND feminism was incredibly radical. Katie and Heather have undertaken a Herculean task in creating this commemoration of Exponent II's founding in their new book, Fifty Years of Exponent II, that includes the history of the organization and an anthology of selected works from the quarterly publication and blog. Heather and Katie describe the rich content of this compilation and share examples from their book that shed light on some of the challenges inherent in the task. They also talk about the ongoing need for Latter-Day Saints have to safe community both within and outside of the Church, noting the importance of not just feminism, but the impacts that ableism, ageism, racism, anti-queer sentiment, and ethnocentricity can have on members and their loved ones. I am grateful to Katie and Heather for their dedication to such a great cause and for their willingness to share their stories with us on this podcast. As a side note, I’m focusing only on sharing stories associated with the Queer-LDS experience now. However, if you would like to share your story about a different Church- or gospel-related topic on Listen, Learn and Love, please contact Tonya about the possibility of working with her as my guest-host (e-mail Tonya at [email protected]). Links: Fifty Years of Exponent II: www.amazon.com/Fifty-Years-Exponent-Katie-Ludlow/dp/1560854774 Exponent II: https://exponentii.org/ Exponent II Magazine on Instagram: @exponentII_mag Exponent II Blog on Instagram: @exponentii_blog Katie Rich on Instagram: @KatieLudlowRich

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love.

0:06.3

This episode is hosted by my guest host and friend Tanya Miller.

0:11.4

Tanya Miller is a licensed clinical social worker, active literary saint, and married mother of four.

0:18.4

Tanya Miller was on episode 501, where she spoke about healing from church-generated trauma,

0:26.0

an episode according to SoundCloud with over 60,000 listens.

0:31.0

Tanya is also the author of a chapter addressing the same topic in my third book,

0:36.9

Listen, Learn, and Love, Building the Good Ship

0:38.9

Zion. I trust Tanya, because of her level of maturity and extensive clinical experience

0:46.4

to be an excellent guest host. As I mentioned in my solo episode, Episode 731, my emotional gas tank is low,

0:58.1

and I've decided to cut back and generally host only LGBTQ-focused episodes.

1:03.8

I knew that meant there were other brave stories from amazing people,

1:08.5

the real heroes of this podcast, that might not be shared and was sad about

1:14.1

that. However, Tanya and I reconnected shortly after I posted that episode and explored the

1:20.9

possibility of having her guest hosts, so these stories could still be shared and delivered on this platform. And I'm really grateful to have Tanya's a guest host.

1:33.3

Hello, listeners, and thank you, Richard. I feel very humble about this undertaking, and I am so grateful for your trust.

1:41.3

I don't take that lightly, especially the trust that every courageous

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guest offers when they participate in this process. I am so hopeful that the good work

1:51.4

accomplished already by Listen, Learn, and Love will continue to expand, and that the gentle spirit

1:57.4

that has always accompanied Richards's podcasts can be maintained.

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Listeners, welcome to this episode of Listen, learn, and love. Today, I am joined by Katie Ledlow

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Rich and Heather Sundahl.

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Katie and Heather created a book called 50 Years of Exponent 2, which must have been a massive undertaking and an incredible labor of love. And I am so excited to visit with Katie and Heather today and learn more about their stories.

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