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Episode 782: Dr Kristine Coons, Transgender Latter-Day Saint, Understand the Science

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2024

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

My friend Dr. Kristine Coons (active Latter-day Saint, Internal Medicine Physician, came out to her wife in 2014, was on episode 699) joins us to share her journey/insights. Kristine brings a unique and needed perspective with her medical expertise in understanding gender dysphoria and the nuance of defining gender/biological sex—along with her own experience being transgender. Kristine also talks about how the new transgender policies negatively impact her (and many other transgender Latter-day Saints) causing her to feel demeaned and a second-class citizen—something Kristine doesn’t feel in the other circles where Kristine serves. If you are transgender—of are looking for insights to better support/mourn with our transgender friends—our hope is Kristine’s story will help you. Thank you, Kristine, for being on the podcast. You are awesome. Links: Kristine’s PowerPoint: www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kg25yhqw5e0gqh7zf95bd/Listen-Learn-and-Love-Podcast-9-19-2024-Kristine-Coons-Podcast-Link.pdf?rlkey=z7ekmdp759yfwot2ui35h199f&dl=0 Kristine’s “Variations of Sexual Development Doc”: www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/p1m6f6tby85xdqx7nrdbc/Variations-of-Sexual-Development-Kristine-Coons-Podcast-Link.pdf?rlkey=nnqsadgn3fl5fefiqj57wus29&dl=0 Kristine’s “History of Biological Sex Definitions”: www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/1rbi4brjroeo3qejhwrny/History-of-Biologic-Sex-Definitions-Kristine-Coons-Podcast-Link.pdf?rlkey=ritt2zucgp3ek7uwwl458ckq9&dl=0 Church’s Transgender Guiding Principles PDF: assets.churchofjesuschrist.org/1d/76/1d76991533df11efbaeeeeeeac1ed7e66fbf94a7/general_handbook_guiding_principles_for_local_leaders.pdf Kristine’s prior podcast (699): podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-699-kristine-coons-transgender-and-her-wife/id1347971725?i=1000628774947

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

0:09.5

My guest on today's podcast is someone I invited to come back on the podcast because her story is so powerful.

0:17.2

And it's been a year since she's been on the podcast and a lot's changed in a year.

0:22.0

I'm welcome to the podcast, Dr. Christine Coons.

0:27.1

Thank you.

0:29.7

Dr. Coons was on episode 699.

0:33.6

We'll link to that in the show notes.

0:35.0

I'll just read a little bit.

0:36.9

So if you're not familiar with Dr. Coons, I'll just introduce her to you.

0:44.6

She's a physician of internal medicine.

0:47.1

She's returned missionary.

0:48.4

She's a transgender Latter-day Saint.

0:51.1

Her pronouns are she, her.

0:53.8

Her wife, Laura, are married. They're a married couple of four.

0:59.9

And last time they joined us, they joined us together from Hawaii, where they were celebrating

1:04.7

their 20th wedding anniversary. And Christine, I asked her to come back on the podcast because she is kind of, you know,

1:14.1

she has a professional understanding of why the science, why someone feels gender dysphoria

1:20.1

and is transgender, as well as her personal story as a transgender woman. And you may be aware our church, the Church of Jesus Christ, the Latter-day Saints, had some

1:32.0

policy updates in August of 2024 that one of my guests talked about how the borders of

1:39.3

Zion just got drawn in a different space, a different line in a more restrictive way for transgender

1:45.3

Latter-day Saints, and they're not able to participate in the way they once were.

1:50.4

And there's a lot of mourning in our community.

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