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Episode 803: Clint and Melinda Mueller, LDS Parents of Two Gay Sons

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 4 January 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

My friends Clint and Melinda Mueller (live in Litchfield Park, Arizona; BYU grads; forensic engineering business owners) join us to share their story of having two gay sons (four sons total, sons #2 and #3 are gay—age 29 and 26 respectively—both returned missionaries). Clint talks about the long road (started in 2016) when their first son came out—and all the changed perspective needed to better support their sons (going from “not on my watch will I have a gay son” to loving/supporting them). Clint talks about deeply spiritual experiences (including talking with other gay people in his life) that helped him do better. Melinda talks about personal revelation including “your job is to love them; my job is to save them.” Clint and Melinda talk about the shock of when their second son came out following his mission—and how they were better equipped to love and support him. Clint also shares what they are doing in their LDS circle to help local leaders/members better support LGBTQ members. If you are an LDS parent new to the road of having a queer child (or be better prepared for this possibility), or a local leader, please listen to the Mueller’s story. It is a powerful story of growth, pain, honest communication, keeping the family circle together, and creating a beautiful family love story. Thank you, Clint and Melinda, for being on the podcast and giving us better tools/gospel insights to support the LGBTQ people in our lives. Links: Clint/Melinda Mueller’s e-mail: [email protected]

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

0:09.0

My guests on today's podcast, joining us from their home in Litchfield Park, Arizona, which is just west of Phoenix.

0:18.9

There are my friends Clint and Melinda Mueller.

0:21.9

Welcome to the podcast.

0:23.9

Thank you.

0:24.5

Thank you for having us.

0:26.1

Just a little bio.

0:27.7

Clint and Melinda, I've been trading emails with Clint for several years.

0:32.6

They're active LDS and have two gay sons.

0:37.2

Son number two and son number three are gay.

0:40.5

So they're going to talk about their journey.

0:43.4

Son number one is 29.

0:45.7

Son number two is 26.

0:48.0

They both serve missions.

0:50.2

Mom probably suspected that son number one might be gay in the eighth grade, but they both

0:55.5

kind of came out around their mission time or post mission.

1:00.6

They've been on this road for about eight years without gay sons, at least to them.

1:06.1

And so I really felt that they've been on this road a long time and would help you that are LDS parents of LGBTQ kids that are brand new to this road.

1:16.8

Just this past week had a wonderful couple come visit me in my home and they were looking for resources as their teenage gay son came out and they're terrific.

1:28.4

But I just recognize that your kind of voices would help them and felt impressed as I met with them that

1:33.4

one day they'll be helping other people that are new to this road, just like you two have

1:38.6

done and are doing. Just a little more bio. They met at Melendez from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Just got a new

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