Episode 819: McKay Mayes, Gay Latter-day Saint, Giving Hope to Others

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 29 March 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

My friend McKay Mayes (from Wyoming, London South RM, Age 29, Lives/Works in Utah County) joins us to share his story including: Always believing/hoping he would be fixed and be straight Great mission experience—but still gay Not fitting the typical gay stereotype Dating and trying to make it work with a woman—wanted to follow God’s plan—super painful not finding a way to make that possible Feeling “left behind” as straight friends got married For six years, committed to being single in line with the Church’s celibate guidance—leading to the darkest/most painful moments of McKay’s life New prayers (instead of “fix me”) Finding hope, acceptance of being gay, and purpose in his new path Relationship with the Church and hopes for changes First coming out experience (super helpful) I continue to be amazed by the brave/mature/thoughtful people who share their stories on the podcast—with McKay joining that group—and his desire to give hope to others walking a similar road. Thank you, McKay, for all you have done to bless/help the lives of others (mission, EFY counselor, etc) and continue to do so with your courage to be out/honest and be on the podcast to give hope to others. You are a good man with a great life ahead of you! Links: McKay on Instagram: @mckay_mayes McKay on Facebook: www.facebook.com/mckay.mayes.7 Obsolete vs current teachings: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/mxcr5fo9rxl29by4wvc9q/Obsolete-and-Current-Teachings-LGBTQ.docx?rlkey=e1dbc3iffua4nwwscpg911uzw&dl=0

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0:00.0	Hello, welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.
0:08.6	My guest on today's podcast is my new friend McKay Mayne.
0:12.8	Mays, welcome to the podcast, McKay.
0:17.9	Thank you.
0:18.7	Happy to be here.
0:20.7	McKay's last name is M-A-Y-E-S. I was going to put an N in there, but I caught myself.
0:26.6	Just let me give you a little introduction. McKay grew up in Wyoming, a little town outside of Yellowstone.
0:34.6	He lives in Utah County. He works in marketing and graphic design and creative
0:39.6	management. Spend some time at BYU, Idaho. UBU served a mission in England. I served a mission
0:46.6	in England in the northwest. Manchester, he was in the iconic London South mission.
0:53.2	He is 29. He's a gay Latter-day Saint. He has been out about three years ago.
1:00.8	Youngest of seven. McKay is really doing this podcast to help others. Younger people that might be new to this road that need the hope and principles and perspective.
1:13.0	Let me read you the DM I got from a K on Instagram.
1:17.3	That's okay.
1:19.6	I just did a deep dive and wanted to thank you for how refreshing it is to see your perspective on open heart.
1:25.2	You're making a big difference.
1:27.1	It took me years to tell my family about being gay
1:30.2	because I'm so far from fitting in the typical gay stereotype.
1:35.1	That makes it a lot harder to have to blindside people so much.
1:40.1	But as someone who's trying so hard to hold on the church and attend
1:43.4	and the mission I loved,
1:44.9	you give me hope.
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