Gaza’s “Operating System” - with Nadav Eyal

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🗓️ 4 January 2024

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Gaza runs like no sovereign entity. On the one hand, Hamas rules Gaza like any government does — it has a health system, an education system, a security, force, and a finance system. Hamas works with international agencies based in Gaza (like the U.N.). But Hamas does not see itself as responsible for the people it governs. How does this all work at a practical level? What is Gaza's unique operating system? That is the focus of today’s conversation, along with the latest analysis of the death of Hamas leader Saleh al-Arouri. Our guest is NADAV EYAL who is a columnist Yediiot. Eyal is one of Israel’s leading journalists, and a winner of the Sokolov Prize, Israel’s most prestigious journalism award. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news. He received a master’s degree from the London School of Economics and a law degree from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

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0:00.0	This is an amazingly successful terrorist startup.
0:05.0	A terror group took control of a territory and what they managed to do and this is a startup is where responsible not for the population that has elected us or
0:18.4	supports us or lives under our rule. We're responsible only for the struggle and everyone else. The United Nations,
0:28.0	NGOs, the PA, the Palestinian Authority, are responsible for the civilian needs of the
0:36.2	population of more than 2 million people and they can focus solely on an
0:42.0	October 7th attack and at the end of this Hamas is one of the
0:46.7	richest if not the richest terror organization in the world today. It is 6 p.m. on Wednesday, January 3rd, 2024 here in New York City. It is 1 a.m. on
1:10.0	Thursday, January 4th in Israel.
1:15.1	Gaza runs like no other sovereign entity.
1:19.5	On the one hand, Hamas rules Gaza,
1:21.8	like any government rules rules the territory.
1:24.4	It runs a health care system.
1:26.4	It has an educational system.
1:28.2	There's a security force that reports to the governing authority.
1:31.9	There's a finance system that's used to collect
1:34.8	taxes and subsidize various projects. It coexists with counterparts from international agencies
1:41.2	that are based in Gaza. It coexists with the international media. from international
1:44.4	media that is based in Gaza.
1:46.3	But on the other hand, Hamas does not see itself as responsible
1:51.4	for the people over whom it governs. How does all this work at a very practical
1:56.4	level, at least up until October 7th? What is Gaza's one-of-a-kind operating system to try to understand this ecosystem and how it's
2:07.3	function and how it could potentially function after the war. We welcome for the first time Nidalayel who's a columnist with Yidioz,
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