How to Fight Burnout, With Writer Anne Helen Petersen (RECAST)
The Upgrade by Lifehacker
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4.6 • 688 Ratings
🗓️ 28 June 2021
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
This week we're learning how to fight the burnout we might not even realize we're suffering from with help from journalist Anne Helen Petersen. Tune in to hear Anne's advice on how to recognize your own burnout, how to make space in your day for a breather, and how we as a society can start to change this culture of hyper-productivity. Anne's latest book is Can't Even: How Millennials Became the Burnout Generation, which comes out in September.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to The Upgrade, the podcast from the team of LifeHacker, where we help you improve your life one week at a time. |
| 0:19.1 | I'm Alice Bradley, editor-in-chief of LifeHacker. |
| 0:21.6 | And I'm Jordan Calhoun, LifeHackers Deputy Editor. And our new permanent co-host of the upgrade. |
| 0:30.9 | Glad to be here. Just wanted to add that part. Nice to have you. So glad to join you, Alice. Sorry, |
| 0:36.9 | sorry, now I'm interrupting you. There you go. I'm so excited. Just so happy to be here. Today we're talking about a real and pervasive problem. That's right. You and probably everyone we know are dealing with it right now, and that's burnout. Yeah, if you're not feeling burnt out right about now, I don't know, I don't know you, but I don't want to know you. |
| 0:56.2 | Joining us today to talk about how to deal with that chronic state of being overworked is writer Anne Helen Peterson. |
| 1:01.9 | Actually working all the time, you know, it's reduced returns. |
| 1:05.8 | That if you can figure out how to reorient your relationship to work, you're actually going to produce better work |
| 1:11.3 | than, like, you know, working a 15-hour day just staring at the computer. |
| 1:15.6 | Anne is a senior culture writer at BuzzFeed News and is the author of the book, Can't Even, |
| 1:20.2 | how millennials became the Burnout Generation, which comes out this September. |
| 1:24.1 | Alice, what's your experience with burnout? Is there a pivotal moment that you remember? |
| 1:28.1 | Well. |
| 1:28.7 | Where you realized you were burnt out? You know? I mean, not to say that you're burnt. I mean, |
| 1:33.0 | you look very calm and chill all the time. Is it that obvious? I've never recognized you to be |
| 1:37.9 | tired. Yeah, I'm calm and chill. I, it's never happened. I'm a font of energy. I have been feeling it lately and seeing it, |
| 1:48.5 | especially in our staff. And I do feel like it's kind of, even though the book is geared toward |
| 1:53.4 | millennials, it is a subject that really resonated with me because of just working from home |
| 1:59.0 | all the time, right? There's no, there's no separation between |
| 2:01.5 | work and life. And also because of the nature of our work, looking at social media somehow has |
| 2:06.8 | become work. So if I'm not working, I'm on social media, which is working. And it's very |
| 2:13.6 | hard for me to stop working, if that makes any sense, because I'm constantly thinking about |
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