Hey, and welcome to The Upgrade, the podcast from the team at LifeHacker, where we help you improve your life one week at a time.

I'm Jordan Calhoun, editor-in-chief of LifeHacker,

and joining me is LifeHacker's parenting editor, Megan Walbert. Hey, Megan. Hi, Jordan.

Megan, this week, we're learning how we can start to take some manageable steps toward

being more environmentally conscious, right? We are. We're learning how to cut down on plastic waste,

reduce our carbon footprints, and make other small

lifestyle shifts with help from filmmakers and activists Lori David and Heather Riceman.

There's so many changes that we can start making that are going to be better for our health

and better for the planet. And it's about getting on the journey, not being perfect, but doing a

little bit and then doing more.

Lori's an environmental activist and an award-winning documentary film producer.

She's produced such films as Fed Up, The Social Dilemma, and the Oscar-winning documentary

and Inconvenient Truth.

And Heather is the CEO of the Canadian company Indigo Books and Music and a documentary

filmmaker as well.

In 2014, she co-produced Fed Up, a documentary about the American food industry alongside Lori,

and she's also been the executive producer of films writing on the wall and the social dilemma.

Now Lori and Heather have come together to publish their new book called Imagine It, a handbook for a happier planet.

And we're looking forward to hearing their advice on some practical ways we can start being more environmentally friendly.

That's right. Jordan, I would imagine you've already got some pretty green habits, but are there any areas that you struggle with?

Yeah, I don't put that much thought into the products that I buy, generally speaking.

I do put thought into buying less and recycling more and reusing things when I have the

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