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Impeached, Again

The Daily

The New York Times

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4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

“A clear and present danger.” Those were the words used by Nancy Pelosi to describe President Trump, and the main thrust of the Democrats’ arguments for impeachment on the House floor. While most House Republicans lined up against the move, this impeachment, unlike the last, saw a handful vote in favor. Today, we walk through the events of Wednesday, and the shifting arguments that led up to the history-making second impeachment. Guest: Maggie Haberman, a White House correspondent for The New York Times. For an exclusive look at how the biggest stories on our show come together, subscribe to our newsletter. You can read the latest edition here. Background reading: President Trump has become the first president to be impeached twice, after the House approved a single chargea single charge of inciting the mob that stormed the Capitol. He faces a Senate trial that could disqualify him from future office. Senator Mitch McConnell is said to have privately backed the impeachment of Mr. Trump. The second impeachment — in a Capitol ringed by troops — seemed like the almost inevitable culmination of four years that left the nation fractured, angry and losing its sense of self. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily

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0:00.0

From New York Times, I'm Michael Babaro. This is The Daily.

0:11.0

Today, for the second time, President Trump is impeached by the United States House of Representatives.

0:19.0

This time, with the support of Republicans. White House reporter Maggie Haberman on the historic vote.

0:28.0

And what happens now? It's Thursday, January 14th.

0:39.0

Maggie, I want to start with what we understood heading into this historic day, the impeachment of President Trump for the second time.

0:49.0

So, Michael, as this day began, a number of factors had come into play. Vice President Mike Pence had made clear to Democrats in the House that he was not considering invoking the 25th Amendment and moving to remove President Trump from office.

1:04.0

That meant that impeachment was the only option forward for House Democrats if they wanted to move before he leaves office.

1:12.0

Now, we knew that there were a small number of Republicans in the House who were speaking out and saying they supported impeachment and would vote in favor of those articles.

1:23.0

One of them was very significant. It was Liz Cheney, Congresswoman from Wyoming, who is number three in the House GOP leadership.

1:32.0

And of course, the daughter of a former Republican Vice President.

1:35.0

And very much a representative of an old school establishment wing of this party who has been supportive of the President, but not unconditionally.

1:48.0

And she released this statement the night before the impeachment vote that set the stage for her thinking and why she was going to vote the way she did.

1:56.0

And what she said was without missing any words, quote, the President of the United States, summoned this mob, assembled this mob and lit the flame of this attack.

2:07.0

Everything that followed was his doing. None of this would have happened without the President. The President could have immediately and forcefully intervened to stop the violence. He did not.

2:17.0

That's about as strongly awarded a statement as you can imagine from a member of either party. And this is the number three Republican in the House.

2:27.0

Absolutely. We have heard few notes of condemnation from Democrats that were harsher than this. And we have heard very few condemnations from Republicans that did not offer some fig leaf to other Republicans by also criticizing Democrats at the same time.

2:44.0

Liz Cheney went right at President Trump and made very clear that she is laying the blame for last week's violence and last week's deaths in the Capitol at his feet.

2:54.0

So heading into Wednesday, what we understood is that this impeachment was going to be different because unlike the last one in which not a single Republican voted for impeachment.

3:08.0

And this was very likely to be a bipartisan impeachment of Donald Trump.

3:14.0

That's exactly right, Michael. And it's significant not because there was such a volume of Republicans who were going to vote for it. They're warrant.

3:22.0

But it was significant because the first impeachment of President Trump, which took place in the House a little over a year ago, there were zero Republicans.

3:29.0

It was a strict party line vote and the Republican leadership in the House and the Senate were whooping their members to keep them in line to support President Trump.

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