This is a sleep work repeat. It's a podcast about making work better.

Hello, thank you for listening.

If you're new here, this is a podcast where week by week we try to construct and imagine how

to create better workplace culture and effectively sort of pick the brains of

experts and researchers who've done work on it and along the way there's been some great episodes.

I think we've got a really stimulating an interesting and timely episode for you today.

Before I start, I'll just give you a quick opportunity to really get well get a free book.

There's a newsletter that goes alongside this podcast and quite often that's the place where I share

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whether we're going to try and make a go of the previous way that we were operating.

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Now what happened was a few weeks ago quite often I get people

approached me saying will you come and talk to my whole company and one of the things they say

along the way is we're buying copies of your book to share with people.

Anyway, one organisation got in touch with me and they sent me 50 copies of my book to sell and then pretty shortly after I'd

finished signing them and package them back up a guy buzzed at my front door and he said,

said, come to click the package.

Well, the people who I'd sign them for,

had told me they were sending someone along

to collect the package.

So I handed this box of books to this

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