Esther Perel says, no woman wants a man to make love to her if she wouldn't also make love to herself.

What she means by that is that women, their sexual template is often about feeling desirable.

And they have to see and believe themselves as a desirable being.

Now, I don't mean in some narrow version of femininity or beauty or anything like that, but like, I know I'm a good human. I know I'm a good person. I do good in the world. I like who I am. That eros energy is emanating from us, that life force, that sense of happiness in the world. And it doesn't mean we think we're perfect or that we don't have

discouragement and all those things, but there is a kind of ease with yourself. And it shows in the

way you live. Welcome to conversations with Dr. Jennifer, a collection of interviews on the topics of

relationships, sexuality, spirituality, and more, all featuring Dr. Finlayson Fife.

I'm so excited. We're here today with Dr. Finlayson Fife. And you are a LDS relationship and

sexuality coach with a PhD in counseling and psychology. Wow. Like that's a good list of

credentials. It's long. And I am part of your room for two community. And I am in love.

Every day I send my husband another episode and like, we can get on the same page. Listen to this

one on the way home. It's so good. And I write these like really good nuggets on my mirror.

You know, I'm just like, like wherever we can squeeze it in. But I,

I just love the way that you work with couples. I love the way you approach sexuality, which I feel

like that portion is not really addressed as often. Yeah. As it probably needs to be. I honestly

would love it if you would just defined sexuality for us.

Sure.

Yeah.

Well, it's kind of one of the hardest things for couples, I think, to address.

And so it gets easier to talk about the day-to-day conflicts.

But yes.

Well, the way I think about sexuality is that we just are sexual beings, you know,

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