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Death, Sex & Money

Love Actually: Real Romance Stories From Mahershala Ali, Jane Fonda, and More

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Podcasts

Business, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Careers, Relationships, Sexuality

4.67.6K Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

For our last episode of 2024, we’re sharing a handful of stories about what love actually looks like, with all its flaws and complexities. The late poet Nikki Giovanni kicks things off by discussing the complicated love she had for her parents. We also hear from actor Mahershala Ali and comedian Chris Gethard and their romantic partners, and Jane Fonda discusses heartbreak and her choice to end a marriage.  Here’s a full list of guests featured in this episode and links to the original DSM episodes that they appeared in:  Nikki Giovanni  Chris Gethard and Hallie Bulleit  Mahershala Ali and Amatus-Sami Karim  Laurie and Krista    Nikki and Darrell  Jane Fonda Podcast production by Andrew Dunn and Cameron Drews. To support Death, Sex & Money, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I was a teenager when Nikki Giovanni published her collection Love Poems.

0:05.9

She came over from across the border of Virginia Tech, where she taught, to speak in my hometown in West Virginia.

0:12.8

And I was so pulled in by her and these poems.

0:17.5

They were tender and generous, but never spineless. There was saltiness, humor, pain, wonder.

0:26.8

And when Nikki Giovanni died in early December, I listened back to our conversation on death

0:32.6

sex and money that we recorded in 2018. She came to New York City to talk with me on stage.

0:39.5

I was pregnant at the time, and we talked about love, romantic love, and familial love.

0:46.4

And as we end 2024 and start another year, I wanted to share some of that conversation with you,

0:55.7

along with some other moments about love from over the years on death, sex, and money. You'll also hear from Herrsula Ali

1:01.2

and his wife, Amatous, comedian Chris Getherd and his wife, Hallie Bullitt, and Jane Fonda. There's also

1:07.6

two disability rights activists who first noticed each other at a protest at the Minnesota State Capitol,

1:14.1

and two of the first listeners of our show, Krista and Lori, who told me about how they eased into sharing money after not being sure that would be safe.

1:26.5

Think of these moments as love poems. And if as you listen,

1:31.8

it makes you think back on a great story of your own about falling in love, send it to us.

1:37.6

What caught your attention about a particular person and made you decide to try.

1:44.9

Record a voice memo about what you first noticed about someone you came to love

1:49.7

and send it to us at death sex money at slate.com.

1:54.9

We may use it around Valentine's Day.

1:57.6

But today, as we think about love, we're going to start with Nikki Giovanni.

2:03.8

Okay, I'm a poet, but I come from a people who invented the spiritual, who found a way to tell

2:09.0

a story that if people thought they could read and write, that could cost them their lives.

2:14.6

And I'm not going to get killed for writing bad poetry, but there are people

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