The Thank you. Thank you. Hey and welcome to the Dove Flip.

I'm coming from Düsseldorf, coming in from Stepstone where I'm the CEO, I'm Sebastian,

and I just landed at London City Airport, drove into London City and now I'm excited to see

here in this lovely flat from Jack. Jack, welcome to your show.

Thank you and welcome to London again because I know you come into London and thank you for

giving some time to share your knowledge, your advice and we're

really interesting to hear a bit about your career and where you've been in your

career and what your advice running one of the biggest organisations when it comes

to job boards and helping people get into work.

So my first question, I always start here, is because there'd be a lot of young people

at home thinking, okay, what do I do?

What job should I get into?

What was your first job and what did that teach you?

I don't know whether you would call it a job.

I earned my first money in hospitality as a waiter, which I know I went to school still,

but it taught me some lessons.

I spent a lot of time in the evenings with business people and I just realized what they're

talking about and how they behave.

So that was the first way I earned money.

And then right after school, I served at the German army.

We still had mandatory service that time, so that was a job.

I earned real money, which was interesting because the army or the place where I served

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