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This is CBS. I am the world. I'm John Batchelor.

To New Zealand, to the University of Wichita, to my colleague Ruben Michael Steff, a senior lecturer in national security,

because New Zealand in the world these last days and weeks, with an incident that confounds everyone I've talked to.

Two Chinese warships, PLA Navy, plus a supply ship, traversing the Tasman Sea.

Yes, unusual, but this part really becomes odd.

A live fire exercise, and we're told in the news that the PLA Navy did not give

a warning or a heads up or any prior notice to Australia or New Zealand. We're told that. It seems

far-fetched, so I go to Ruben Steph to understand the confounding nature of this incident. I read the headline from the New Zealand Herald, one of the great papers in New Zealand. China defends naval drills in Tasman C. accuses Australia of deliberately hyping military exercises. That's the as Ajaas France reporting.

Ruben, a very good day to you. I accept all possible explanations. What is, what have you been

hearing since the original incident? What is going around in New Zealand, why they did it and will

they come back? Good evening to you. Good evening to you

too, John. I'm a pleasure to be here. Well, we are also confounded and we can only speculate as to

who the true audience was and what exactly the Chinese were trying to do here. I think there's probably

four obvious audiences they're playing to. Firstly, of course, Australia and New Zealand. We are both

pretty friendly with the United States.

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