Quick one. My team tells me we actually have very few reviews relative to the weekly audience

numbers. This is no doubt my fault, as I've always felt a little weird about asking you

to do something for me. But clearly, if you don't ask, you don't get. So if you're enjoying

the show, if it's providing you value, please take 30 seconds and leave a review on Apple

or Spotify. In doing so, you'll help the show rank higher, which means we can continue

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possible.

When I moved up to New York to do my PhD, I decided that I needed to be good at doing

this hands-on with people. And so I got my personal training certificate and I started

training at a gym, right in your time square. And that's where I really got to work with

patients again. I got to work with clients. I got to deal with their health issues and

realize that things aren't always so black and white. Sometimes, the effect of just someone's

diet wasn't enough. And you have to look at other things to help them. Like calories

and calories out, timing of your calories, weight loss, nutrition, kind of the overall

standpoint of what are you doing on a day-to-day basis to lower your cortisol levels, lower

your stress levels, and bring it back to where you can put your body in a state of rest

and relaxation to utilize those nutrient ends to the best of their ability without adding

them, putting them directly into the storage component, which would be the device, which

would be fat cells, if that makes sense.

That's Frank Kusimano, and this is the Proof Podcast.

This week, on a plant-proof podcast, I had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with

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