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The Good Fight

Oren Cass on the Case for Tariffs

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Yascha Mounk and Oren Cass discuss the reasoning behind Trump’s economic policy. Oren Cass is the founder and executive director of American Compass and author of The Once and Future Worker: A Vision for the Renewal of Work in America. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Oren Cass discuss the decline of manufacturing in the U.S., whether there is any coherence to Trump's economic policy, and if the Democrats or Republicans are the more natural home for working class voters.  This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected]  Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Leonora Barclay Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We lost our leadership in advanced technology also. We lost our leadership in semiconductors.

0:35.7

We've lost our leadership in aerospace. And that is what

0:38.9

tells you this isn't just trade working the way economists said it would. It's a much deeper problem.

0:43.9

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:53.1

My guest today is Oren Cass.

0:56.0

Oren is an author and longtime Republican strategist.

1:00.5

He was a key policy advisor to Med Romney in both 2008 and 2012.

1:06.1

He is the author of the once and future worker and the founder of American Compass. In his think tank

1:13.0

and in his work, Aran is trying to shift the consensus of Republican Party economic policy. He is

1:21.8

trying to get the party to take seriously the downsides of globalization, to make the case for the importance of bringing manufacturing jobs

1:32.3

back to the United States,

1:34.3

of investing in the working class,

1:36.3

and even of arguing for the benefits and importance of labor unions.

1:43.3

These places are at the very heart of the economic debate

1:47.8

about whether the Republican Party should try and appeal

1:50.9

to the working class, including the non-white working class

1:54.0

through its economic policies,

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