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John Moroski is with us today. He's an investigative reporter for real clear investigations.

He had a story last month on a subject that I thought would interest our listeners. It has a long

title, his article, that is, Queering Jesus, How It's Going Mainstream at Progressive Churches

and Top Divinity Schools. That is our topic today. Welcome,

Mr. Moroski. Thank you very much. Glad to be on. Now, first, what brought you to this

phenomenon in the first place? Yeah, that's a good question. You know, I follow, you know,

the topic of wokeness and related subjects online, and I started seeing

this video went viral of this minister in Iowa, praying to the God of pronouns, the great

queer one.

And I thought, well, that's really interesting.

And I just started looking into it a little bit, and I noticed that this wasn't the only church,

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