Hello and welcome to Best Friend Therapy. I'm Elizabeth Day, author and

podcaster and for over 20 years I've been best friends with a therapist.

That's me. Hello, I'm Emma Reed-Tarell and I'm a psychotherapist. In my private

practice I talked to clients about the challenges they face in daily life and

we work together in a non-judgmental supportive space to increase their

sense of well-being. And as her BFF I get all the benefit of her expertise and

wisdom for free. Emma makes me feel better about life but also helps me to

understand why I act the way I do. Ah, thanks Liz. She's also one of the only

people allowed to call me Liz. We wanted to open the doors to our friendship and

throw a light on the therapy we all need in our everyday lives. Each week we

chat about what's on our minds to get deeper in our minds. Two best friends, one

therapist, no filter. That's Best Friend Therapy. Hello and welcome back to Best

Friend Therapy. We are doing a third episode on what we now believe to be a

mini series on breakups and in this particular episode we are looking at

breakups in the professional sense. So the first two we looked at breakups in

the romantic sense that was episode number one of this mini series and then

the second part we looked at breakups in terms of friendships and families and

now we're looking at it professionally. And the reason we wanted to spend so

much time talking about this is because I would have liked this mini series when

I was going through any number of breakups and I think that actually breakups

often trigger points in us that go very very deep and ultimately when we do

feel vulnerable or rejected it forces us to confront ourselves as we really are

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