Trump’s Animal-Spirit Economy

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🗓️ 20 March 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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The economy that Donald Trump inherited from Joe Biden had low unemployment, slowing inflation, and a growing GDP. So what is he trying to achieve by imposing heavy tariffs on our allies and trading partners? Guest: Stephanie Ruhle, NBC business analyst and the host of MSNBC's The 11th Hour with Stephanie Ruhle. Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Ethan Oberman, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:01.2	So Stephanie, we're a couple of months into Trump 2.0. And I'm wondering if you had to sum up Trump's economy in like a word or a phrase, what would it be?
1:17.2	So awesome.
1:20.6	I called up Stephanie Rule over at MSNBC because I needed a friend to tell me exactly what Trump is doing with the economy.
1:30.7	Also because I needed a laugh first thing in the morning.
1:34.6	I sense some sarcasm there.
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