The Age of Magical Overthinking

CLEANING UP YOUR MENTAL MESS with Dr. Caroline Leaf

Dr. Caroline Leaf

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.6 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In this podcast I talk to linguist, bestselling author and podcast host Amanda Montell about how cognitive biases impact the way we think about and show up in the world, how easy it is to fall into magical thinking, how impactful our perceptions are, why we tend to stay in bad relationships, and so much more!

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Amanda Montell is a New York Times-bestselling author and iHeart Radio Award-winning podcaster. Her nonfiction books include Cultish, Wordslut, and The Age of Magical Overthinking—an instant New York Times Bestseller

A big part of Amanda’s work and her latest book The Age of Magical Overthinking is trying to answer the question that, even with so much information at our fingertips, why does the world make less and less sense? In many ways, our innate human superstitions and irrational decision-making, which in may have served us well in the past, clashes with the information age, mass loneliness and the capitalistic pressure to know everything under the sun, which exacerbates many cognitive biases we have in the digital age.

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Dr. Caroline Leaf and welcome to my podcast Cleaning Up the Mental Mess.
0:10.0	Have you ever thought about how cognitive biases like the HALO effect cultivates worship and hatred of larger than life celebrities?
0:20.0	To how the sunk cost fallacy can keep us in detrimental relationships long after we've realized
0:25.8	they're not serving us.
0:27.7	Well, joining me today is Amanda Montel, a selling author of Kultish and host of the podcast, Sounds Like a Cult, to discuss a
0:36.6	delicious blend of cultural criticism and personal narrative to explore our cognitive biases and the power, disadvantages and highlights of how they become
0:46.1	magical thinking and how it manifests in society all from her new book, The Age of Magical Overthinking. So let's dive in.
0:59.0	Amanda, I'm so excited to interview you. I have been a great fan of your podcast, not just me but all my girls. You know how many
1:05.3	saunas I've sat in where we've been listening to sounds like a cult and going, oh wash, you know all these things. So,
1:11.5	if you're on a fantastic podcast I'm very
1:14.3	excited to interview and congratulations on your new book.
1:17.4	Oh that's nice.
1:19.4	Overthinking.
1:20.4	Thank you so much that I appreciate that. Thank you.
1:24.0	Of course. Okay, so I'm going to just grab a couple of things that I've got lots of little dog ears here.
1:30.0	I like really getting into books of the people that I interview and what really caught my attention was something on page six that you said the zeng wooded and the word kowan I think I'm saying it correctly
1:39.6	Yeah.
1:40.6	Well the unsoldable riddle you break the mind in order to reveal
1:44.4	deeper truths and reassemble the pieces to create something new.
1:47.8	And that was, for me, beautiful because a lot of the work I've been doing
1:51.6	and I still research and run clinical trials all kinds of things and it's looking at the mind and how the mind is not the brain and how the mind changes the brain and things are broken down and all the influences that come into us and how biases our perceptions and then you write
2:06.2	this book all about pretty much biasing perceptions and how our mind can do what it's,
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