Hey, everyone is Andrew Claven with this week's interview with Preston Brashears of the Heritage Foundation.

You know, a couple weeks ago on the podcast, I put forward a Claven's theory of what Trump was doing in the matters

of foreign policy. And I pointed out that Trump is a Gestalt thinker. He's a guy who kind of

sees things whole. Maybe he doesn't even know sometimes what it is he's seeing, but he has a bigger

picture than I think people give him credit for. And I think he moves't even know sometimes what it is he's seen, but he has a bigger picture than I think people give him credit for.

And I think he moves through that picture sometimes on instinct, but sometimes with instinct backed up by reason.

And sometimes because the press reports on it with so much hostility, it's really hard to see what's going on.

So now we have to talk about his economic theory.

And I thought instead of

having me do it, somebody who has a hard time balancing a checkbook, I would bring on Preston Brashears

because he is a research fellow who focuses on tax and fiscal policy at the Heritage Foundation

Grover M. Herman Center for the federal budget, and I've been reading his pieces, and he really

has a lot of great

insight. Preston, thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate it. Yeah, Andrew, it's a real

pleasure to be with you today. So every morning I get the Wall Street Journal and the Wall Street

Journal is in such a panic over tariffs that they put it in every headline and every article. Even on the op-ed page, there

are no columnists who are allowed to say, maybe this is a good idea. Should we all be in a panic

about tariffs? I think there's reason to be a little bit concerned because you just don't

know where this is all going to go. And obviously, the markets are a little bit concerned, and you've seen the markets come

down a little bit.

But at the same time, I think there's some that are just going absolutely overkill in terms

of their panic on this.

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