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Like Mind, Like Body

"The Mother of Mindfulness" Gives Her Take on Chronic Pain (Ellen Langer, PhD)

Like Mind, Like Body

Curable Inc.

Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.7724 Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

“When we get a diagnosis, we tend to hold it still. Then we assume that it’s going to stay that way or get worse. People hear the word ‘chronic' as ‘uncontrollable' or ‘incurable.' Nothing in and of itself is incurable. All that means is that we haven’t yet found the way to cure it.” In this episode, the “Mother of Mindfulness,” Harvard professor Dr. Ellen Langer, gives her take on chronic pain. Join us to learn about how mindlessness impacts daily life, the benefits of embracing uncertainty, and why noticing change could be the key too healing.

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we need to know that we don't know. And so some of the pain is what you're experiencing right now.

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Some of the upset about the pain is what you're presuming will happen next week, tomorrow in an

0:11.8

hour, which we can't know. I think that if people are generally more mindful, noticing things,

0:19.2

not just about themselves, about their friends, their spouses, if they're

0:23.3

married, the world around them turns out to feel enlivening, energizing. And it's a nice way to

0:33.7

counteract, even the moments were in pain.

0:43.2

Welcome to like, mind, like body. I'm Laura Sego, and today I am interviewing one of the biggest names in mindfulness,

0:47.8

positive psychology, and the mind-body field, Dr. Ellen Langer.

0:53.5

Dr. Langer was the first female professor to gain tenure in the Harvard Psychology Department.

0:58.3

She's been described as both the mother of mindfulness and the mother of positive psychology.

1:03.3

And during her illustrious career, she has so far authored 11 books and more than 200 research

1:09.3

articles.

1:10.6

She's currently working on her next book,

1:12.3

which will feature lots of groundbreaking work specifically related to chronic conditions.

1:18.1

In this interview, she will break down what her research means for people with pain and what you

1:22.8

can do to take more control. As always, this podcast is a part of the Curable universe.

1:29.3

If you're not familiar with Curable, it is an app designed to help you heal from chronic pain and symptoms.

1:35.1

So if that is something that you struggle with, be sure to check it out.

1:38.6

You can get started for free at Curable.com.

1:42.0

Now let's dive into the interview.

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Okay. at curable.com. Now let's dive into the interview. Dr. Langer, thank you so much for joining us on the show today. I'm so excited to have you

1:53.0

here. My pleasure. We have a lot of ground to cover. Your reputation precedes you. You have done

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