I definitely don't consider myself to have chronic pain anymore because there's nothing that is always here.

A lot of the symptoms that were really, really bothering me when I first discovered this work, my kind of like neck, shoulders, arms, and those are completely, completely better.

Welcome to like mind,

like body. I'm Laura Sego and today I am interviewing a very special member of

our curable community, Phil.

Phil struggled with chronic pain and symptoms for nearly three decades, during which he experienced

a whole sampler platter of symptoms, including back pain, neck and shoulder pain, nerve pain,

fibromyalgia, fatigue, vertigo, and more. It has been a long and winding road to recovery,

but today, Phil is happy to share more about his journey and how he took his daily pain levels down from around a six to a one to two.

If you're new here, just a heads up that this podcast is a part of the curable universe.

If you're dealing with any chronic pain

or symptoms yourself, the curable app is an excellent place to follow in Phil's footsteps and take

your own healing journey in a very positive direction. You can get started on the program for free

at curable.com. Without further ado, let's get to the interview.

Phil, thank you so much for joining us on the show today. I'm so excited to have you here.

Yeah, it's really exciting to be here. Thanks for inviting me on.

So why don't we start at the very beginning of your long journey with chronic

symptoms. Tell me about when your symptoms first began. Well, the first time that I remember

having regular back pain was when I was a young adult, so kind of like in my 20s. For context,

I'm 51 now. And it was around about the time that I'd

finished university and I was working full time for the first time. So I was working as a teacher.

So looking back, it was definitely a stressful time in my life of kind of adjusting to the

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