Hey, everyone, it's Andrew Claven with this week's interview with Ryan Gurdusky.

You know, I've been watching the stuff.

I guess we're all

watching the stuff that's happening in Europe where the left is using every means possible

to stop the nationalists and populace from rising, the new right from rising in France.

They just banned Marine Le Pen from running for president, which is amazing on

completely spurious charges as far as I was concerned. In Romania, they overturned an election.

Israel, the courts have so much power. They can't pry them loose in Spain. They're arresting

people for speaking. It's not even to mention Britain where you can get arrested for praying in your home silently. And if you think we're not threatened with that here,

you're not watching what the courts are trying to do to Donald Trump as they put injunctions on

small local cases. They put injunctions on policies across the country. Ryan Gurdoski is the host of the podcast, A Numbers Game on IHeartRadio.

He's the author of the National Populous Newsletter on Substack and also the author with Harlan

Hill of They're Not Listening, how the elites created the nationalist populist revolution.

Ryan, thank you for coming on.

I appreciate it.

Thanks for having me.

So let's begin by defining what we're talking about. When you talk about nationalist populism,

I mean, that seems to be the target of the left across all of Europe and in America. What exactly

is that? What defines that? Yeah, I define more nationalism as the conflict between internationalism or neoliberalism,

globalism, and more patriotism, nationalism, of more focus inwards on when it things like

trade or immigration. And then populism is a class conflict between the working class and those

who are, I would say maybe the upper class. But when I say the upper class, really, it's class conflict between the working class and those who are, I would say, maybe the upper

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