Hello, everyone, and welcome back to making the argument.

We have a very interesting episode this time with a very important guest because, look,

I can't tell you how many times serving in the Virginia legislature.

I have gone back home or I have gone on social media or someone, and I've said,

do you realize that the other side or the government or when it is

trying to do X? And what I constantly get is that's ridiculous. Nobody was trying to do that.

Nobody wants that to happen. And then you'll present evidence and you'll say, okay, but here was the

vote or here was the bill or here's

what this actually means. And they'll say, that's not true. You've got to be misrepresenting it.

And I'll be like, no, no, no, here's the language for the bill. You can actually read it yourself.

And I will still get pushback as if I'm being divisive. Like, it's not that the bill's divisive. It's not that the fact, no, no, no,

it's that me bringing it up, me drawing attention to it is divisive. And the point I want to make out here, very calmly, coolly and collectively, is the people telling you about something

that is actually happening, that have all the receipts for it, they're not the ones causing the division,

right? Pointing out something that is actually taking place is not in and of itself the divisive

thing. In fact, if you're someone that looks at that and automatically thinks to yourself,

they're being divisive, when really what they're just giving you is facts

and perspective on it. Maybe you should use that as an indication to yourself that, oh, if I

automatically assume that this is being divisive, but it's actually happening, maybe there's an

actual problem here that needs to be addressed. Now, my guest today, Jeff Younger, has been involved in a very long custody battle

with respect to one of his fraternal twins being diagnosed with gender dysphoria.

Now, the marriage dissolved, it was an old, and now the mother, you know, again, this was a child that

I said something about wanting to be a girl at age three, was diagnosed with gender dysphoria at

...