Sometimes if you just read the news it doesn't always seem like it, but being president of the United States is the highest calling.

You have so much responsibility, your responsibility over the whole economy,

whether people thrive or starve,

or there's a depression or there's a boom.

You're also responsible for every war out there. You're responsible for the lives of not only all Americans, but really the entire world because the U.S. has the most powerful military in the world and we have to be careful how we use it and so many other things.

So I was so happy to talk to David Rubinstein.

He's been on the podcast before he's the head of the Carlisle Group which is a 500 billion dollar private

equity firm and first off he started his career working for a president he worked

for Jimmy Carter when he was fresh out of law school and then at the Carlisle group he even

had presidents working for him so and we talk about that a little in this

podcast but he just wrote a book, just came out called The

Highest Calling, Conversations on the American Presidency, where he

talked to various historians who wrote books about presidents ranging from George Washington and Abraham Lincoln

and Ulysses S Grant all the way up to Bush, Clinton, Nixon, Kennedy, and many of the presidents in between.

I've always been fascinated with biographies of presidents,

but I've learned so much by reading this book,

the highest calling, and talking to David Rubinstein on this podcast. So I hope you learn as much as I

is. So many fun facts and opinions and it's also interesting to see how the opinions of various presidents have changed over time and we talk

about that as well, how history often changes its mind about who was good and who wasn't.

So without further ado, here is David Rubinstein talking about

the highest calling conversations on the American presidency.

This isn't your average business podcast, and he's not your average host. This is the James Altager show.

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