Hey, everyone is Andrew Claven with this week's interview with Kevin Roberts, the president

of the Heritage Foundation, also sometimes

called the mastermind of Project 2025, which puts him somewhere between Darth Vader and

Soron on the list of supervillains. And of course, I admire him for it as well. I've also

always been a big, big supporter of the Heritage Foundation. It is not just a smart, conservative think

tank with integrity. It's also one of the very, very few people who reached out to me when I first

started talking about the culture. There were one of the few conservative organizations that

understood what I was saying when I said, we've lost the culture, and if we lose the culture,

it won't matter how many elections we have won.

It has taken a long time for them to find a leader who understands the transitions that are

going on in the country.

And Kevin is the right man for the job at the time.

It is very hard to do MAGA graciously.

It's a very aggressive movement with

sometimes spills over into belligerence, but Kevin has managed to do that to be a full-on

maga man, but also a gentleman and a scholar. Kevin, it is great to see you again. How you doing?

Man, I'm doing great. It's always wonderful to speak with you. Obviously, we did that recently.

Yes. And you're very, very kind in your

comments. You know, whatever heritage is accomplished is because of the great men and women who are

inside it. I've got the best colleagues in the world. But also, I think our secret is that we're

supported not by any, you know, white knight, so to speak, inside the Beltway, but by hundreds of

thousands of regular ordinary Americans who just

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