I couldn't help people anymore.

I needed better tools.

I needed, actually, to be honest, I needed a better understanding of the human pain experience,

which I did not have as a young clinician coming out.

And so, yep, I failed.

I needed a new paradigm.

Found pain science, luckily.

And here I am.

Welcome to like mind, Like Body.

I'm Laura Sago, and today I will be joined by a guest who is something of a legend in the chronic pain space, Dr. Adrian Lowe.

He is a pain scientist, author, educator, clinician, and physiotherapist who is best known for his groundbreaking work in pain neuroscience education. His books, courses, and educational

systems are used by thousands of physiotherapists and clinicians around the world, and today he is here to share some of his

knowledge with us. In addition to his many other titles, like co-founder of evidence in motion

and director of the Therapeutic Neuroscience Research Group, Adrian is also a member of the

Curable Scientific Advisory Board. For those of you who are not familiar with Curable, this podcast is a part of the Curable Scientific Advisory Board. For those of you who are not familiar with Curable,

this podcast is a part of the Curable universe, and Curable itself is the number one app for

brain-based chronic pain recovery. And importantly, Curable includes a ton of education around

pain neuroscience. So if that is something that you are interested in trying out,

you can try the app free for 14 days by signing up at curable.com.

Let's get into the interview.

Adrian, thank you so much for joining us on the show today. We've been waiting a while to have you on.

You're welcome. Through many interviews on this podcast, I have learned that everyone who ends up specializing in persistent pain has a very interesting story of what brought them into this field.

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