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Like Mind, Like Body

What’s Crooked About the $100 Billion Back Pain Industry? (Author Cathryn Jakobson Ramin)

Like Mind, Like Body

Curable Inc.

Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.7724 Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2018

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

New York Times Bestselling author and investigative journalist Cathryn Jakobson Ramin spent 6 years researching back pain. Join us as she discusses the startling discoveries she made about the $100 billion dollar back pain industry, including: why largely ineffective spine surgery is still performed regularly, and what the data really says about the effectiveness of injections, chiropractic treatment, physical therapy, posture, the role of the brain, the role of exercise, the emotional component of back pain, and more.

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0:00.0

I've become much more convinced. And it's been shown from a neurobiological perspective that

0:08.0

chronic pain is actually made in the brain. It is very, very real. However, at a certain point,

0:19.1

fairly soon the lesion is gone. It's healed. And the brain is making the pain. This is like mind, like body, a podcast about the surprising ways our thoughts and feelings can impact our physical health.

0:47.1

I'm your host, Laura Sago, and on each episode I will speak with researchers, physicians, and ordinary people who have incredible

0:56.3

stories to tell about the power of the mind-body connection.

1:00.4

This podcast is brought to you by Curable, an app that helps you heal chronic pain through

1:06.0

the same science-backed techniques we talk about on this podcast. You can download Curable in the Apple App

1:12.2

Store, on Google Play, or learn more at our website, curablehealth.com. Today on the show, I will

1:20.5

interview Catherine Jacobson Raymond, an investigative journalist by trade who spent the last

1:26.5

several years focusing her attention on the back pain industry.

1:31.5

Driven by her own personal experience with back pain, Catherine set out to understand more about which treatments work, which ones don't,

1:39.7

and what the public needs to know about this $100 billion industry.

1:44.8

She details everything she learned in her newest book, Crooked, outwitting the back pain industry

1:50.9

and getting on the road to recovery.

1:53.7

And on today's episode, she'll be giving us a look into some of those insights.

1:58.7

Let's hear what she has to say.

2:03.3

Catherine, thank you so much for joining us on the show today. I'm really excited for this

2:07.9

conversation. And I want to just dive straight into it with a little bit more about your

2:14.5

personal background. So you're an investigative journalist by trade and a writer.

2:20.5

How did you end up following this trail of the backpaint industry?

2:27.0

Well, yes, you're right. I am an investigative journalist, and I have been one for more than 40 years. So I have a tendency to look a

2:38.3

little deeper and dig a little deeper than your standard person. It's always been a bit of a

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