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If I had one person to sit down with, if they're dead or alive, it'd be my to move the

king. There was one time he was walking up to give a speech. As it was walking, there

was this crowded people and when it was walking towards the stage, a person spat on his face

and then he got a hang of chief out of his pocket. He wiped it down, wiped it all off

his face. He took a deep breath in, he looked at the dude, very calmly, very gently. He said,

I believe this belongs to you. When I heard this story, I was like, man, this is how I want

to interact with people. That hate that they throw at you, that hate that they spit at

you, that's not yours. That's theirs. I feel like that story is a great way to use as

a reference to respond to people when they come across at you angry or with hatred. It's

not yours to take in. In the very second that you do, then you'll just digest it, then

negative energy and they have a remote control of your happiness now. That's Matt Karma and

this is the proof podcast.

This week's episode of the Plant Proof Podcast features Matt Karma. Matt Karma is a 24-year-old

Australian living in Bali who is dedicating, absolutely dedicating his life to animal activism.

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