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The Glenn Show

Yaya Fanusie – The Life of a CIA Analyst

The Glenn Show

Glenn Loury

Politics, Society & Culture, News

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2024

⏱️ 60 minutes

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0:47 The Jabbari Lincoln Files, Yaya’s audio spy thriller

5:40 Is Jabbari Lincoln a fictional surrogate for Yaya?

10:05 How Yaya joined the CIA

16:18 What does a CIA analyst do, anyway?

20:42 The lessons of the WMDs debacle

23:08 A Muslim convert at the Agency

28:40 How the 2005 London Underground bombings got Yaya interested in counterterrorism

30:28 Terrorist recruitment and the search for self

35:57 Why Yaya doesn’t use the term “Islamophobia”

38:52 Yaya: Not even freedom fighters have license to kill with impunity

45:06 What would Malcolm X think about African American support of Palestinians?

52:22 Working for the CIA in the post-COINTELPRO era

Recorded November 9, 2024

Links and Readings

1776 Unites

The Jabarri Lincoln Files

Sam Greenlee’s novel, The Spook Who Sat by the Door

Ivan Dixon’s 1973 film adaptation of The Spook Who Say by the Door

Yaya’s essay for the Journal of Free Black Thought, “Hamas Are Not Muslim Freedom Fighters”

December 2, 1963 NYT article on Malcolm X’s “Chickens coming home to roost” comment

Yaya’s other podcast, Designated



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0:00.0

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0:06.6

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0:23.3

Hello, everybody. This is Glenn Laurie. You have tuned into the Glenn Show. I am with

0:29.8

Yaya Jata Finucci, a young man who I have come to know through my affiliation with a

0:39.3

Woodson Center in Washington, D.C., a gathering of relatively conservative African-Americans

0:45.3

around the work of Bob Woodson, the great Bob Woodson.

0:50.6

Yaya and I have been on a few calls where advisory council to Bob have put our heads together about this or that.

0:58.2

He's impressed me as an interesting fellow and I thought it'd be fun to talk with you, Yaya, here at the Glenn Show.

1:05.4

I'm Glenn Lowry. I'm a professor at Brown University. I'm a John Paulson senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.

1:12.6

Every other week, I'm here with John McWhorter, my conversation partner, but on the off weeks,

1:17.5

I talk with varied guests, and our guest this week is Yaya.

1:21.8

Thank you. One of the reasons I wanted to talk to you, man, is because you know a lot more

1:26.1

than I do about digital currency,

1:28.3

about central bank digital currency, about crypto and this kind of stuff.

1:34.5

Bitcoin, I don't understand it.

1:36.2

I'm an economist who does not understand the modern financial world.

1:40.0

I thought you might be able to break it down.

1:41.3

You are also a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency.

1:47.0

And I don't know that many former CIA analysts.

1:50.1

I'm very curious to hear about your experience to the extent that you're at liberty to share it.

1:55.4

And you're younger than me by decades and interested in African American life and culture

2:00.6

and have an angle of vision

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