Hey guys, it's Rach. Welcome to another episode of the show. And today we're talking about

narcissism and narcissistic disorder. This was a term that I really saw become very popular

on TikTok. I saw it a lot during COVID and in a lot of different videos. And I think there's just a lot more

information about what this is like and what it's like to suffer with it yourself, what it's like

to have a partner or a parent or a boss who has narcissistic tendencies. I wanted to take a

deeper dive because I knew it was something y'all were interested in. And in my

studies and my learning, I discovered this book that I thought was so incredible. And its author,

Debbie Merza, is my guest today. We are talking about passive, aggressive, covert narcissism. Maybe a type of disorder you haven't

heard about before, but I think you're going to find it really interesting. The one note I

will give you before we jump into this episode is we started geeking out so much and talking so

fast that there is a point where she's making a list

of the signs of a narcissist.

And we got so excited about the conversation that I don't think she says more than two of them.

I'm going to sneak in at that point and just read out the other signs and symptoms so you guys will know what they are.

So if you were listening to

this and you were like, why did they not finish the list? It was just because we got too excited

chatting and we forgot to come back to it. But I got you. Don't worry about it. I really hope that

you guys enjoy this conversation as much as I do. I think this is going to be a really popular episode.

I think y'all are going to have a lot of follow-up questions for Debbie, and I really encourage you to call the hotline

and let us know what you think. We'll do a follow-up episode and take a deeper dive. But this is

our introductory conversation about narcissistic disorder.

Hi, I'm Rachel, and in this show, we talk about everything. Life and work, health and healing, relationships with others and with ourselves.

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