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Significant Others

Bonus Episode: Heather Cox Richardson on Presidents and First Ladies

Significant Others

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History

51.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Significant Others is back with another bonus episode! Liza is joined by historian Heather Cox Richardson, host of the podcast Now & Then, and author of one of the most successful Substacks of all time, Letters From An American. Heather and Liza dive into presidential marriages and ask, who was the best love match? Which overlooked first ladies deserve some more credit? And which presidential relationships were doomed from the start?

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0:00.0

Welcome to Significant Others.

0:03.8

I'm Liza Powell O'Brien, and just because I'm deep in research for season two doesn't

0:09.4

mean we have to stop bringing new stories of interesting plus ones.

0:14.1

Over the last few months, we've talked with some incredible guests, including Pulitzer

0:18.6

Prize-winning author Stacey Schiff about how Samuel Adams could be called the significant

0:23.8

other of the American Revolution, and Dana Schwartz of the podcast Noble Blood about

0:29.5

Royal Spouses throughout history.

0:32.4

This month, in honor of President's Day, we thought it would be fun to ask historian,

0:37.0

author, and professor Heather Cox Richardson about presidential marriages, the better and

0:43.2

the worse.

0:44.5

Heather, I am so thrilled to be talking with you today.

0:47.0

Thank you so much for being here.

0:48.4

Oh, I'm so happy to be here.

0:50.0

It's going to be such fun.

0:51.6

For anyone who might not already be familiar with your sub-stack, letters from an American,

0:56.8

could you tell us a little bit about it?

0:59.1

I write every day about the history behind the news and what's happening that looks

1:05.2

significant to me in the news, and I try and look back at it as a historian looking

1:10.6

from a vantage point of 100 to 150 years from now.

1:15.0

So a lot of what I pull out often is not what is appearing in the news and the things

1:20.6

that do appear in the more common news are things that I might explain slightly differently

1:27.5

as part of a larger pattern.

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