This is like mind mind, like body, a podcast about the surprising ways our thoughts and feelings influence our physical health.

I'm your host, Laura Sago, and on each episode, I'll interview researchers, physicians,

and ordinary people who have incredible stories to tell about the power of the mind-body

connection. This podcast is brought to you by Curable, the app that helps you manage and heal chronic pain

through neuroscience education and practical evidence-based techniques.

You can download Curable in the Apple App Store on Google Play or visit our website at

curablehealth.com.

That's c-U-R-A-B-L-E-Halth.com.

Today I will be joined by Katie Estridge, a licensed physical therapist and yoga therapist

with an integrated practice in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Today, Katie will share her unique approach

to treating patients holistically and tell us about how the concepts she discovered in the

Curable app have transformed her own experience of the very concepts she imparts upon her patients.

Let's get to it.

Today I am joined by Katie Estridge, a licensed physical therapist and yoga practitioner.

We have a ton to cover, Katie, and I know that you have a lot to share about your own personal experience with chronic pain. But what I really want to start with is your professional experience. So as I just mentioned, you are both a licensed

physical therapist and yoga therapist, which is a very cool combination. I'm curious how that actually plays out in your practice. What does that

look like and what is a treatment plan that combines those two disciplines look like for one

of your patients?

Well, that's a good question. I am actually a what's called a cash-based physical therapist,

so I do not file with insurance.

And so I have an hour-long treatment session with clients.

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